I have the very great pleasure of presenting an interview with mystery author Louise Penny. If you are a Julia Spencer-Fleming fan, you will also like Penny's novels, set in the small town of Three Pines in Quebec. And like Spencer-Fleming's novels, Penny is a multiple award-winner. In fact, today we just got word that The Cruelest Month was nominated for an Anthony. Way to go, Louise!
Below is the interview, but if you'd like to learn more about Louise Penny head on over to her website.
THE INTERVIEW
Mark Twain, Raymond Chandler, yours truly, to name but a few, started out as journalists in some capacity to feed their writing habit. Tell us about your journalistc work in Toronto.
Love the company you've put me in - thank you! I was with the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation - the CBC - which is like the BBC only with way fewer listeners, and less prestige, and less money and less influence. So, not much like the BBC, really.
I started out as a National Radio News reporter then started hosting programs when one of the radio execs heard a report I'd done and told my boss I should be taken off the air. Annoyed me so much I decided to show him - and worked my behind off until I was offered a job co-hosting a morning show. Now, the CBC Radio morning shows are alot like the Today show, only not on television, with a far smaller audience, way less money and prestige and almost no make-up. So, not much like the Today show after all.
But I did learn to listen. To pay attention not only to what people said, but how they said it. To all the ways we communicate. And over 20 years I got to travel the country, listening to people's stories. And I got to witness some terrible events and some moments so divine they take my breath away even today. All that I use as a writer - as I'm sure you do too.
Your first book Still Life began your Three Pines series and won the first of your many awards. When I interviewed Julia Spencer-Fleming, we discussed a certain amount of “world-building” that goes into creating a small, closed community. Even though we might be well-acquainted with small towns and it might be inspired by someplace close, there is still a lot of invention that goes into it, not just geography but people. Tell us about Three Pines and its inhabitants.
Three Pines is a tiny, bucolic village in Quebec, close to the border with Vermont. It's part French and part English, as is Quebec. And when I came to create it all my decisions were selfish. I knew it would take about a year, and the chances of getting published were tiny so the writing of the book needed to be fulfilling enough on its own. So I decided to create a community I would choose to live in, with people I would choose as friends. Since I was going to spend so much time there, I wanted to enjoy it. More than that - I wanted to love it. Wanted it to become a sort of 'safe place' - a venerable old village with stone homes and a village green, that had survived disasters, and wars, loss and sorrow, and still turned its face to the sun.
The first thing I created was the new and used bookstore, and its owner Myrna. Then the bistro, with it's open fireplaces and mullioned windows and gay owners. Sarah's bakery and Monsieur Beliveau's General Store. And the B&B. None of the stores, none of the people, were created for dramatic purposes or with the thought they'd have to be able to carry a series. It was just dumb luck. Writing under the influence of gummi bears helps too. Mind altering. Just don't try to snort them. Trust me.
How heroic does a hero need to be? And how do you define “heroic” when it comes to Inspector Gamache?
He's a man with a moral centre. A man who, while flawed, will always try to do the right thing, not the easy thing. As we know, it's easy enough to be good and kind and decent when everything's going your way...the real test is to be a decent person when all hell is breaking lose. Gamache is that decent man. He was created because I never wanted to tire of my main character. He, uniquely, was created with the long view in mind. I need someone I would choose to spend perhaps the rest of my life with. And so I intentionally created a man I would choose to marry. I didn't expect anyone else to feel that way but it's been one of the great joys of the books for me, that others feel like that about Gamache. You know that wonderful line from Yeats - Things fall apart, the centre cannot hold. Gamache's centre holds.
What went into the creation of Gamache? Is he inspired by any one person or perhaps a conglomeration of people?
Oh, dear, I might have answered that above, but superficially he was inspired by
the heroes I had growning up. My grandfather, who taught me poetry, Walt Disney, Ben Cartwright, Walter Cronkite. Middle aged men who have a calm, and a decency. If I was younger I would have without doubt made Gamache in his 20's or 30's...but I'm in my 50's, so he is too. He's also inspired by my husband Michael, who was a pediatric hematologist - a doctor for children with cancer...who had the worst job in the world, and yet is the most joyous man I know. Because he knows the difference between a bad day and a not bad day. Because he knows what a precious gift life is, and what a terrible shame it is not to enjoy it.
Since we’ve just talked about heroes, let’s talk villains. What is your favorite type of villain to write about and why?
Well, with the exception of CC de Poitiers in A Fatal Grace, all my villians are in fact regular people. I was very impressed by Hannah Arendt's book on the trial of Eichmann in Jerusalem. She called her book, A Report on the Banality of Evil. My villians are banal - they blend in, they're you and me and people we know. And that's the horror. Not that we're betrayed and attacked by perfect strangers, but that the attack comes from within.
There’s a level of darkness in your books that might leave them off the “cozy” list. How would you describe your mysteries?
Following on from what I just said in the previous question, I've always thought the village mystery was the most noir of any genre. To be killed by a friend. Et tu Brute. And then, for the rest of the community, to know one among them is a snake. And that growing dread as the police close in, as secrets are revealed. No one is safe. And all this happening in a perversely idyllic setting. That's also why I made Three Pines so beautiful - because then the darkness would be all the more stark.
I think it's possible to read my novels as village cozies and leave it at that. But I also know there are layers and levels. Like Bullwinkle. There, the truth is out...I was inspired by a cartoon moose. But I believe Emily Bronte was too.
I have heard that Canada is not an exotic enough locale for U.S. readers to be drawn into, but your books seem to do very well in the U.S. market. Can you comment about locales in novels? What is exotic anyway?
Great question. yes, one publisher said to me (while joining the cavalcade to turn down my first book, 'No one would be interested in a mystery set in Canada'. That, by the way, from a Canadian publisher! I had no idea what to say - except, 'So's yo mudda'. There are all sorts of brilliant Canadian mystery writers, from the great Giles Blunt whose books are set in northern Ontario to Gail Bowen and Mary Jane Maffini.
Having said that, I know I was VERY lucky to be living in Quebec and have that as the location. There is definitely something exotic about this area...the French fact. It's romantic and gracious, the food is different, the culture is different...and yet it's close enough and familiar enough that Americans can relate. I think - also - that a good writer can set their book in a single room and make it riveting. However, a great sense of place helps. I love reading about different places - and clearly other people do too.
Let’s back up a bit. Where did the decision come from to write mysteries, or was it something smoldering for a long time?
I actually had planned to write the best book ever, and win the Nobel Prize. Surprisingly, I then suffered writers block for 5 years and watched Oprah and ate gummi bears instead. Then I looked on my bedside table and saw all those Golden Age mysteries. Books by Agatha Christie, Ngaio Marsh, Dorothy L. Sayers and Josephine Tey. The books I actually read. And it came to me in that instant. I would simply write a book I would like to read. And that's what I've done ever since. Each book is for me.
You are very involved in literacy in Canada, and serve as the Patron for the Yamaska Literacy Council. Tell us a little about your activities in this organization.
Well, I wish I was more involved. I was also the president of our little local library for a few years but had to give that up when the writing and all that went with it got too absorbing. For Yamaska I mostly do personal appearances, readings, and have narrated a film.
The Brutal Telling, your latest Three Pines novel, will be released this October. What’s next for you?
Well, I'm now writing the sixth Gamache novel called Bury Your Dead - it's set partly in Three Pines but mostly in Quebec City during winter carnival. I've decided now to set every second book in Three Pines, and then let it lie fallow for a year or so...re-populate. Get some more villians moving in.
Jeri, thanks for this - these are among the most intelligent and fun questions I've been asked - and I'm MOST impressed and grateful! And enjoyed it. Thanks you!!!
And thank you, Louise. You are a hoot and I can't wait to meet you at Bouchercon this October! Happy reading, all!